Monday, June 8, 2015

volodimir karas

volodimir karas ..uploaded torez "buk" photo

the "witness" who supposedly seen the buk in torez When i google searched the images for "buk in torez" an image that showed the image listed on google street view {deleted soon after i published blog} as posted on the 17th july by "volodymir k" and was the earliest post however the only activity on google streetview account is the photo that he uploaded on the 17th. google image searches led me to his vk volodimir karas page twitter and google plus accounts so i am certain its the same man  Here is his google plus page  he is a member of battalion kyiv-2 an extremist pro kiev unit well known for their brutality also with links to pravy sektor and was on the maidan from at least december you can check out his facebook page a google search of his twitter and other pages showed a suspect message board post which was posted on a russian page named holywars which was posted and listed on google as posted on the 16th july the day before mh17 it was quickly deleted but it caused a deluge of comments pointing out that how was he posting "proof" of mh17 shoot down a day before it happened

The upload date cannot be explained away by google time difference as google is based in san francisco which is -8 hrs UTC and donbass is +3hrs UTC and as mh17 crashed at 13.20 UTC that post could not be listed later than 11am UTC so how could this man post evidence that rebels had a buk in Torez 2hours and 20 minutes before the crash if this buk really was photographed in torez it could not be later than UTC to show as being as posted on 16th as google hq is 11 hours behind donbas unless the buk doubled back to zurhes as it was allegedly seen in zurhes at 11.30-11.45 


Tuesday, June 2, 2015

while in a discussion with eliot higgins i brought up the issue that the torez buk photo posted saying that "here is the proof rebels shot down mh17" on holywars it states on google that this thread discussion was started on the 16th july by a user by the name of toterman and is under the politics tag and then the first comments appear on the 18th and this date is when eliot seems to think that this is when to post was made if this is the case then where did his initial post go to as he is not listed on comments and then why would google list this comment as started on 16h 2 hours prior to mh17 shoot down 

the header on photo 2 is when it was first posted on the 16th and as donbass time is 11 hours ahead of google head quarters in san francisco i am only stating that for google to have the post listing on the 16th it cannot be posted to the internet any later than 11am on the morning of the 17th 2hours and 20 minutes before mh17 was shot down at 13.20 donbass time 

and is clearly seen in the google listing this post states MH17 in the post whoever posted this knew something about the mh17 crash 2 hours beforehand  which can only mean that this was pre-planned attack on mh17 if "evidence" of the mh17 attack was posted beforehand ......which part of this is confusing to pro kiev supporters 

toterman only lists one forum thread starter